Nippon Kaigi (nationalist Shinto)

The news this morning that prime minister Abe Shinzo’s political allies have won a two-thirds majority in the Upper House elections does not bode well for the future direction of Japan.  Or Shinto…  (The article below is a truncated version of the original.)

For a youtube video (6 mins) exposing the group’s growing influence, see here.

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The Religious Cult Secretly Running Japan
by Jake Adelstein and Mari Yamamoto in The Daily Beast July 10, 2016


Nationalist Abe ShinzoNippon Kaigi, a small cult with some of the country’s most powerful people, aims to return Japan to pre-WWII imperial “glory.” Sunday’s elections may further its goal.

TOKYO — In the Land of the Rising Sun, a conservative Shinto cult dating back to the 1970s, which includes Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and many of his cabinet among its adherents, finally has been dragged out of the shadows.

The group is called Nippon Kaigi (Japan Conference) and is ostensibly run by Tadae Takubo, a former journalist turned political scientist. It only has 38,000 members, but like many an exclusive club, or sect, it wields tremendous political influence.

Broadly speaking, Shinto is a polytheistic and animist religion native to Japan. The state-sponsored Shintoism promulgated here before and during World War II also elevated the Emperor to the status of a God and insisted that the Japanese were a divine race –– the Yamato; with all other races considered inferior.

Nippon Kaigi originally began in the early 1970s from a liberal Shinto group known as Seicho No Ie. In 1974, a splinter section of the group joined forces with Nippon o Mamoru Kai, a State-Shinto revival organization that espoused patriotism and a return to imperial worship. The group in its current state was officially formed in May of 1997, when Nippon o Mamoru Kai and a group of right-leaning intellectuals joined forces.

The current cult’s goals: gut Japan’s post-war pacifist constitution, end sexual equality, get rid of foreigners, void pesky “human rights” laws, and return Japan to its Imperial Glory. With Japan’s parliamentary elections to be held on July 10, the cult may now have its chance to dominate politics completely. If the ruling coalition wins enough seats, the door will open to amending Japan’s modern democratic constitution, something that has remained sacred and inviolate since 1947.

Prime minister Abe on his controversial visit to Yasukuni (courtesy Japan Times)

Prime minister Abe on his controversial visit to Yasukuni Jinja (courtesy Japan Times)

Indeed, for Japan, these elections may be a constitutional Brexit—deciding whether this country moves forward as a democracy or literally takes a step back to the Meiji era that ended more than a century ago. Then, the Emperor was supreme and freedom of expression was subservient to the interests of the state.

The influence of Nippon Kaigi may be hard for an American to understand on a gut level. But try this: Imagine if “future World President” Donald Trump belonged to a right-wing evangelical group, let’s call it “USA Conference,” that advocated a return to monarchy, the expulsion of immigrants, the revoking of equal rights for women, restrictions on freedom of speech—and most of his pre-selected political appointees were from the same group.

Abe, a third-generation politician, is the grandson of Nobusuke Kishi, who was Japan’s minister of munitions during WWII and arrested as a war criminal in 1945 before becoming prime minister in the 1950s. Abe is a staunch nationalist and historical revisionist, who also served as prime minister, from 2006 until 2007, before resigning abruptly mid-term. His ties to the Nippon Kaigi organization go back to the ‘90s.

The Asahi Shimbun and the independent press in Japan have called this year’s campaign “The Hidden Agenda Elections.” Local media have reported that the LDP and partner political parties have made sure their candidates avoid mentioning constitutional revision in their stump speeches.

The ideology behind Prime Minister Abe and his cabinet had received only modest scrutiny from Japan’s mainstream media until this May.  All that changed with the publication of the surprise best seller, Nippon Kaigi No Kenkyu (Research into Japan Conference) by former white-collar worker turned journalist, Tamotsu Sugano, on April 30.

Japan’s leading constitutional expert, Setsu Kobayashi, who is also a former member of Nippon Kaigi, says of the group, “They have trouble accepting the reality that Japan lost the war” and that they wish to restore the Meiji era constitution. Some members are descendants of the people who started the war, he notes.

Despite Nippon Kaigi’s small numbers overall, half of the Abe Cabinet belongs to the Nippon Kaigi ‘National Lawmakers Friendship Association’, the group’s political offshoot. Prime Minister Abe himself is the special advisor. Former Defense Minister Yuriko Koike, who is running for Governor of Tokyo, is another prominent memberSankei Shimbun and others have reported that Nippon Kaigi even tried to pressure the publisher, Fusosha, into dropping the book on April 28.

The protest letter sent to the publisher was surprisingly under the name of the group’s secretary general, Yuzo Kabushima, not the name of the Chairman Tadae Takubo. Kabushima is a staunch Emperor worshipper and was a key member of Seicho No Ie’s student movement. (Sugano argues in his book that Kabushima is the person really running the organization.

Under prime minister Abe Shinzo, nationalist groups have been emboldened, such as this paramilitary group worshipping legendary first emperor, Jimmu, at Kashihara Jingu.

Under prime minister Abe Shinzo, nationalist groups have been emboldened, such as this paramilitary group worshipping legendary first emperor, Jimmu, at Kashihara Jingu.

Despite the threatening tone of the letter, the publisher didn’t budge. Originally, only 8,000 copies of the book were printed. It’s now on it’s fourth printing with over 126,000 copies sold. Five other books have now been printed on the group; magazines are running front-page stories about them.

Suddenly, Nippon Kaigi is very visible. Sugano is surprised and relieved to see Nippon Kaigi and its influence on national policy finally getting attention. He himself is a political conservative who graduated from the University of Texas with a degree in political science before returning to Japan over a decade ago. While he was living in Texas, where he picked up a bit of an accent, he noticed how the Christian evangelical movement exerted political influence and sees some parallels in their methods and those of Nippon Kaigi.

Sugano was still a white collar worker aka “salary-man” when he first became aware of the existence of Nippon Kaigi. Back in 2008, Sugano recalls the shift he felt in the atmosphere on the streets. “Crazy people were starting to speak out,” he says. Protests lead by groups, such as the anti-foreigner hate speech group Zaitokukai were more noticeable. He saw an ugly escalation of their activities with each passing day.

He found these hate speech movements troubling and started to infiltrate their protests, documenting the events in photos and recordings. In order to understand the motives of members and supporters, he started to dig into the conservative publications often referenced in their online comments.

Nippon Kaigi flags at Yasukuni Jinja

The contributors that wrote for these publications puzzled him. Many were established in their field, journalists and academics, all contributing on topics unrelated to their expertise. This peculiar pattern helped him connect the dots: they all seemed to be members of one group. That realization led him down the rabbit hole, where he found the revisionist wonderland that is Nippon Kaigi.

Nippon Kaigi, he found, used neto-uyo (cyber right wingers who troll anyone on the internet they feel writes negatively of Japan), intellectuals, politicians, and closet sympathizers in mainstream media to exert considerable influence on policy and public opinion.

That included getting the Japanese government to reinstitute the Imperial Calendar, which was banished by the U.S. occupation government. It’s 2016 in the West, but under the Imperial Calendar, based on the reign of the Emperor, it is year 28 of the Heisei era. The system is so confusing that many reporters in Japan carry a handy chart to translate the Imperial Calendar dates into Western time.

While several recently published books and articles paint a picture of a masterful Machiavellian organization that has skirted the law to avoid having to register as a political group, Sugano believes they are primarily reactionary with no clear idea what they want to do once their goals are achieved.

“They have worked steadily and stealthily with local politicians and political lobbies to oppose things like gender equality, recognition of war crimes and the comfort women [sex slaves during WWII], women using their maiden names after marriage etc. It’s anti-this and anti-that but has no vision of the future.”

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From Japan Today on July 14, 2016, by Mari Yamaguchi

Founded in 1997, Nippon Kaigi has strived to revise the constitution to restore traditional gender roles, increase imperial worshipping and put public interest before individuals. The group is believed to be behind Abe’s comeback in 2012 and has become increasingly influential.

Their grass-roots movement backed by Shinto shrines and other new religious groups has a growing membership that reportedly includes many of Abe’s Cabinet ministers and hundreds of national and local lawmakers.

The organization holds lectures and other events to spread its views and defends Japan’s wartime atrocities while accusing China and South Korea of lying or exaggerating their suffering. It also believes the U.S. postwar occupation brainwashed Japanese with guilt and that education since the war was self-degrading.

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Always keep the rising sun in your heart, says a poster put out by Jinja Honcho

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From the Japan Times article, ‘For Abe it will always be about the Constitution’ by Debito Arudou July 31, 2016

For decades Abe and his minions at the ultranationalist Nippon Kaigi (Japan Conference) lobby group (of which most of Abe’s Cabinet are members) have made no secret that their primary goal is to make Japan “autonomous.” To restore Japan to an imagined state of glory based upon blood nationalism, returning power to a bred elite, reviving Japan’s military political power with a seat at the civilian policymaking table, and putting the duty on the people to follow the state, not the other way around.

That has always meant getting rid of that pesky American-written and “imposed” postwar “peace Constitution” that enshrines allegedly “Western” values of human rights and empowerment of the individual. No longer content to ignore the Constitution, Abe wants to scrap it.

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10 Comments

  1. Tuf Pic

    I can’t say I approve of EVERYTHING in the LDP’s platform, (I absolutely want to see women be permitted to ascend to the Chrysanthemum Throne, (ESPECIALLY since Amaterasu was-&-is A FEMALE KAMI), although I want the Japanese Nobility/Aristocracy to be restored, (ESPECIALLY the former Royalty/Nobility/Aristocracy of the Ryukyu Kingdom/Okinawa)), but I ACTUALLY WOULD like to see Japan take a stronger stance against their COMPLETELY OPPRESSIVE COMMUNIST NEIGHBORING REGIMES!!

    • John D.

      That’s a rather idiosyncratic but intriguing wish-list. Why the restoration of the Okinawa royalty? Are you in favour of Ryukyu independence, or do you think it would restore Okinawan religion? And when you talk about oppressive communist neighboring regimes, I take it you mean North Korea and China… The former might be described as completely oppressive, the latter less so. And oppression these days is not unknown in Japan since laws have been introduced to curtail freedom of information etc. But what the point of ‘a stronger stance’ is I’m not sure, since confrontation is unlikely to lead to a peaceful situation which would surely be the best situation for Japan.

  2. Tuf Pic

    1) What I’d find ideal regarding the Ryukyu/Okinawa Royalty/Nobility/Aristocracy is a system somewhat akin to the governmental system currently practiced in Malaysia, for instance:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchies_of_Malaysia

    It might have even happened in Indonesia, had it NOT TURNED REPUBLICAN, (although, thankfully, there ARE some Monarchies in the Indonesian Republic, even today, & I hope more are restored ASAP)!!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Indonesian_monarchies

    & @LEAST the Japanese let the Ryukyu Royal Family/Nobility/Aristocracy intermingle with the Japanese Royalty/Nobility/Aristocracy, (as well as even to some extent, in Korea), although they aren’t technically officially recognized as Nobility/Aristocracy, any-longer, due to the American Occupation of Japan, unlike what some Americans did to Hawaii, which was MUCH WORSE!!

    & I do support the restoration/preservation of the Ryukyu/Okinawa Religion!!

    2) Yes, that’s who I mean, & frankly, I find both of them unacceptable, (in China’s case, while it may be barely preferable to North Korea, nowadays, it still has no right to Tibet, OR Manchuria for that matter, as while the Manchurian Qing Dynasty ruled China proper for a time, (as did the Mongol Yuan Dynasty), the Communist Chinese claiming Manchuria after revolting against the Qing Dynasty is like if the American Rebels after the winning of American Independence had tried to claim the British Empire as a part of their new nation, simply because they were ruled under the British Crown, which is, in a word, ABSURD)!!

    3) Even so, I’d argue that the laws in North Korea & China ARE WORSE than the laws in Japan to an extent, @LEAST!!

    4) How do you propose they deal with North Korea/China then: Diplomacy?!

  3. Tuf Pic

    1) The difference there is that the PRC HAS NO RIGHTS TO ANY OF THOSE AREAS, &, in-fact, it was the overthrow of the Qing Dynasty that prompted the aforementioned areas to declare independence, as well as recognize each-other’s mutual independence, so as long as Mainland China remains without an Emperor, I WILL NOT RECOGNIZE CHINA’S CLAIMS TO THESE AREAS!!

    & @LEAST the Japanese Government let the Ryukyu Royalty still be Nobility, as well as the rest of their Aristocracy, & they even married into the Japanese Royal/Imperial Family, &, even to some extent in Korea, the local Aristocracy was still there, …which leads me to…

    2) The Meiji Mikado/Mutsuhito was actually NOT “restored” to power, as the following URL should help illustrate:

    http://www.novelguide.com/reportessay/history/asian-history/role-emperor-meiji-japan

    So, no, while you can blame the Japanese GOVERNMENT for the annexation of the Ryukyu Kingdom/Okinawa+Korea, you can’t really fault the Monarchy, as such!!

    …As for the Showa Tenno/Mikado, well…

    https://www.amazon.com/Emperor-Hirohito-Showa-Japan-Political/dp/0415032032,

    …&…

    (Not specifically about the Japanese Monarchy, but about the Japanese war effort in-general during WW2, with a somewhat more sympathetic outlook on Japan):

    https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/john-toland-8/the-rising-sun-decline-and-fall-of-the-japanese/!!

    & besides, if even Grover Cleveland, (this is an analogy, FYI), was unable to stop the DESPICABLY CRIMINAL annexation of Hawaii, & the overthrow of the Hawaiian Monarchy, & since the American Presidency has historically had/has currently FAR MORE POWER than the Japanese Monarchy has enjoyed, (even @it’s MOST POWERFUL, which was in the VERY DISTANT PAST), as well as many other monarchies, so how ANYONE can blame the Showa &/or Meiji Mikado for any of the crimes Japan committed before/during WW2, (@LEAST to the extent that they are often blamed for said crimes), IS COMPLETELY ABSURD!!

    & I wouldn’t mind Constitutional Monarchy, as it’s certainly preferable to Revolutionary Republicanism!!

  4. Tuf Pic

    Also, even during the Qing Dynasty Era, those areas had some degree of autonomy!!

  5. Tuf Pic

    In other words, I would be perfectly content if Tibet had, (in the Dalai Lama’s words), “meaningful autonomy” within China, & I am pretty sure that His Holiness advocates such a thing, although I wish that China would go back to being a Monarchy, (maybe something like in Code Geass)?!

    & I would definitely like to see the Ryukyuan/Okinawan Royal Family @THE VERY LEAST get their Aristocratic Rank back, & the same goes for the rest of the Japanese Aristocracy!!

    Although, ideally, I’d definitely like for the Ryukyu Royal Family to be granted Co-Royal Status, along with the Yamato Dynasty, (I’d prefer a setup somewhat similar to the 1 currently practiced in Malaysia), as well as maybe other noble houses, (probably others, as a matter of fact)!!

    I would imagine that it would not only elevate the doubly-downgraded Ryukyu/Okinawan Royal/Noble Family, it would also simultaneously quite likely strengthen the Yamato Dynasty!!

    • John D.

      Going back in time is usually limited to SF programmes with time machines. But in clinging to outmoded notions you remind me of Ponsonby-Fane, who was greatly attached to the Divine Right of Kings yet by many accounts the greatest Shinto scholar of the twentieth century. I can’t imagine your erudition is on a similar level, but your preoccupation with the past certainly appears to be…

  6. Chun Jiuqien

    http://www.geocities.co.jp/WallStreet/7659/sjp/statements/sjp20161101a.pdf

    The U.S. government must never regard Japan Government friend♪ (≧∀≦)b
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    The beginning of this suspicion is the underground gymnasium of Konan Boys’ High School♪

    https://www.konan.ed.jp/
    >甲南高等学校・中学校_jp

    I suspect that isn’t this a Nuclear bomb shelter?
    Building of gymnasium needs for years♪

    • Longzi

      I swear, each time I come by you show some culturally Marxist views of Shintoism!

      It’s like, you know, those so-called “Catholic” leftists that are against the Catholic Church, against the French Monarchy, consider the Divine Right of Kings as forgery and mere political manœuvre if not outright slavery and humiliation of the “people” ; and all kinds of views that are completely Historically bunked, if not utterly fake. The same guys who became Catholic or returned to Catholicism because Pope Francis appears to be a “Progressive” who asked the people to bless him instead of the other way…

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      Do you realise what it is that you are doing? What kind of biased and even untrue ideas you help to propagate, merely because they appear to be the majority? Majority only gives the illusion of strength, not real one, nor super-real one.

      Broadly speaking, arguments from the right wing revisionists you’re helping to libel, are far more convincing than the essentially emotion based “arguments” (sophistry) of their foes. In your mind, these folks are “extremist” and “ultranationalists” but the official stance of Nippon Kaigi is to be MONARCHISTS.

      On the other hand, Nationalists are usually hostile against Monarchy, and when they are not, the leaders are Republicans (see the case of South Vietnam, of South Korea (former Southern Korean King at some point was saved from lowly jobs in the US by loyal former subjects who took pity upon him and bought him a traditional house… take note, folks, that is what being loyal to one’s legitimate Monarch means), of Indonesia, of France’s Marine Le Pen, of Russia (who is at odd against nearly all Monarchies it has contacts with, unlike the US who tries nicely, but awkwardly, to be friendly with all of the remaining Monarchies…), etc.). Are they truly on the Right wing ? Wheter you call it a wheel, a Chakra or a Tomoe, it needs a moyeu and it needs someone to turn it and to guide its’ direction. Right wing without Monarchism is like a wheel without moyeu, without core unifying it all ! It is not a true Right.

      It follows that calling Nippon Kaigi Ultranationalist or even Nationalistic is untrue, if not outright slander.

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      The Triple Indo-European (aka Aryan) function : Fertility, Warfare and Sacerdoce. These serve as the basis for the repartition of the “tasks” of society, and as the caste system, also based on individuals “natures” (see René Guénon, “Aperçu sur l’Initiation”), which continued in Japan throughout History all the way up to the post-war period, where the Bourgeoisie (ie. those who merely exchange and are supposed to be ruled over by a warrior aristocracy and/or a Priestly caste, but who now practice massive usury and breed economic crisis like crazy… and turned them either into objects of ridicule and mockery or into mere “soldiers” that are supposed to protect their goodies and private interests… not the one of “the People” as you seems to blindly believe) sized power, as it had done in Britain (since the Magna Carta), the US (since the US…), France (since the Revolution), Russia (idem) & passim. Have you ever wondered how a Civilisation dies, Mister D.? You should know, though, it should be easy, especially for you : by the destruction of its Myths, especially founding myths ; and then by the modification of its characteristics.

      Why are there reactionaries ? Why are the Nippon Kaigi and the Nationalists against all the Progressist ideas about “Progress” ? For the same reason that there are people who don’t wnat pernicious influences to destroy their country.

      Did you even knew that, in the medieval period, women had, like, nearly no family name at all ? Quite reminiscent of Rome (a Republic, you know…?), right ? But somehow, whatever is granted to the Feminist is never enough. They ALWAYS feel oppressed. And usually, in an imaginary fashion. Like, you know, these French nuns that were, according to the Revolutionaries, forced to live a reclusive life as nuns ; even though all written Historical testimonies have them begged for the preservation of their nun status and nunneries, and quote like “those who think us unhappy do not know the extent of the joy we feel”. Because, indeed, it is known that Modernist, anticlerical Atheists are ESPECIALLY TRUSTWORTHY EXPERTS about the Sacred and feelings that one may or may not nurture when coming in contact with it!

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      Elsewhere on this website, there are claims that the “Kings of Wa” were not, at first, “Sacral Kings” in other words, you claim that they were no kings at all. That’s rich coming from a Pagan Shintoist… especially when one knows that Sacred Kingship is a) universel and b) knows its only exception in Catholic Monarchies, where the Guelfe Papists tried to usurp the function of Pontifex Maximus, but where dodged nevertheless by Protestant Monarchs, and Knight-Kings alike (since Chivalry is both a Warrior and Priestly institution, also formally known as “The Holy Equestrian Order”, a spirit that is also found in Indian warrior castes, Amerindian warrior orders and also among Samurai… but detailing “why” Nitobe Inazo was “right” would be very long and very outside of this comment’s goals).

      Pretty much everything in this article is “correct” but portrayed in a biased and nearly evil light, which I would even called satanical (but not Luciferic), because of the attempted reversal of the meanings.

      The only thing that is “right” is the idea that “Human Rights” are “allegedly” western. It is right, but not for the right reasons! It is right because it is actually not at all European (and certainly not Muslim, Jewish, Indian or Chinese, because, you know, China is the “center” of the world… (Chûgoku = Central Realm ; Saiyuki = Journey Westward ; Tianxia / Tenka ; etc)). It was merely invented by the Freemasons based on untrue occultic interpretations (see Evola & Guénon, passim).

      Also, Tuf Pic… shame upon thee!

      Tennô no hitsugi wasn’t founded by Amaterasu, but by Jimmu Tennô reenacting Ninigi no mikoto and the Tenson Kôrin myth. It stays true from a Metaphysical and Super-historical point of view, regardless of Jinmu Tennô’s “historical” existence.

      Do you know what is a Royal Initiation? Initiation was one of the core values, the pillars of Traditional views held as universally common amongst all of the Humankind… and who were destroyed by the Modernists, Egalitarian and secret societies. Haf-admitedly, for some of those, becaue they want to keep them for themselves! Traditionally, it has been universally considered as true that someone who was not initiated was either a child (no matter how old) or uncomplete.

      Hi-tsugi litterally means the Passing of Fire, which is the same idea of transmitting the Regal Celestial and Solar GLORY and Destiny, that was formerly universal among Monarchies, and even continued, albeit in a different and partly misunderstood form, during the Christian times. See Evola (especially “Revolt Against the Modern World” Chapter 2, for details, although it is largely uncomplete and that Evola doesn’t speak much about Japanese Monarchy, please, read it ;)).

      This idea of Hi-tsugi is also found in Izumo Taisha’s high priest succesion. But, you know, according to US imposed politically correct legalist mentality, the Second Oldest, 2nd most prestigious sacerdotal lineage connected with antique kingship can perfectly (and without the Left’s bitchin’) be called “Divine” (Divus, in Latin, hence NOT the same thing as Deus, thus the biased, untrue, uncalled, illegitimate claims of the Leftists one again demonstrated by the Ningen Sengen “western” / westernized (ie. Modernized) believers), but the one immediately on top can’t.

      Likewise, it is perfectly OKAY for a Scholar to say, for example, that Celtic kings were divine, because reenacting the mythical archetype, and also having a “Odinic” role. And it is perfeclty okay too to make similar claims about Nordic Kings, Chinese Kings and Emperors, other Asian Monarchs, even African Kings, or to say that French Kings had Thaumaturgic powers, etc. But to claim something similar (even though it was once the mainstream opinion for longer than memory can remember)for the Japanese Emperor… is tantamount to Heresy against the cult of Democratism and political correctness !

      “Japan is a pseudo democracy… it’s bad!” That kind of people, Leftists & Rationalists, don’t even realise that they, themselves, are nowhere near the “Reason” they “believe” in.

      Allowing women to inherit the Throne when it is besieged by leftists under the guise of Feminism would merely weaken its fundations, and allowing women, besides, would risk to bring a change of Dynasty : ’till now, it has been the very nature of the Yamato lineage to be patrilineal, and therefore to transmit continuously the same Y chromosome since a time that predates recorded History. What’s even the point of changing dynasty?

      In England, they allowed slack dynastic rules, and now the idea that the British Monarch could be “anybody” or that he is “born randomly” is used as an argument AGAINST Monarchy. And that is how badly, how “ABSOLUTE” subversive democratic progressists such as thou desire the Emperor of Japan to be female. Ideas evolve: if women are allowed, one day they will start about allowing clones or transgenders on the Throne, and shame all those who stand against their Monarchy destroying agendas!

      Instead of attacking other Monarchists, why don’t you cultivate yourself about the principles and values of Monarchism instead ? ;) Be aware that all I have said in that mere “Reply” is but a small preview about what a Monarch is. About what a King is.

  7. Tuf Pic

    @Longzi: What of Queen Himiko, (even if you doubt her “historical” existence, &/or doubt that she was related to the currently-reigning Japanese Royal/Imperial Dynasty, &/or doubt that she was an incarnation of Amaterasu, is it not possible that she was/is @the very least a mythical archetype, @least on the same level as Jimmu-Tenno/Mikado, & I tend to view her as an incarnation of Amaterasu, & could it be @all possible that *BOTH* were historical figures)?!

    …& while I absolutely *DO* favor restoring the former cadet branches of the Japanese Royal/Imperial Family, in addition to the doubly-dispossesed Royalty/Nobility/Aristocracy of the Ryukyu Kingdom/Present-day Okinawa Prefecture, (@least the Japanese who abolished the Ryukyu Kingdom still let the Ryukyu Royal Family be Japanese Nobility/Aristocracy, even intermarrying into the Japsnese Royal Imperial Family, (even to some extent in Korea, the local Nobility/Aristocracy was still somewhat present, which is @LEAST somewhat preferable to what happened to the Hawaiian Royalty/Nobility/Aristocracy), I am *ALSO* very much in favor of creating female cadet branches of the Japanese Royal/Imperial Family, @LEAST when the danger of the Radical Revolutionaries/Leftists/Feminists has @the very least significantly weakened, & I even recall reading that some staunch Japanese Royalists were open to creating female cadet branches of the Japanese Royal/Imperial Family, as long as other measures were included, (which presumably & hopefully would encompass restoring both the former Royalty/Nobility/Aristocracy of the Ryukyu Kingdom/Okinawa Prefecture, *&* the disinherited Cadet Branches of the Japanese Royal/Imperial Family)!!

    …Also…

    I’m somehow getting the feeling that you are trying to imply that LGBTQ people cannot ever be legitimate Monarchs, which is simply *NOT* the case!!

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_nobility_and_royalty

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